Corbyn and the Labour party is trying to push for new elections, and says that a No-deal exit is not an option they will agree to. Sounds like the Labour party will try to prevent Britain to exiting the EU.
>Theresa May Defeated Again as U.K. ‘Shitshow’ Threatens to Block Brexit >It’s 17 days until Britain is scheduled to leave the European Union. For just under two years, the British government has diverted all of its energy into hammering out a deal to ensure its exit was as smooth as possible. On Tuesday night, it appeared that those efforts had amounted to absolutely nothing—and no one knows what happens next. >Despite Theresa May’s desperate eleventh-hour attempts to polish her Brexit deal into something acceptable to lawmakers after they rejected it with the most overwhelming government defeat in British parliamentary history in January, the rejigged deal was defeated again this evening—in slightly less humiliating fashion—by 391 votes to 242. >In a bid to stave off an earlier defeat, May was forced to accept that if her deal was rejected for a second time, she would allow MPs to hold a vote the following day on whether they would accept a no-deal Brexit. Since the triggering of Article 50—Britain’s formal request to leave the EU—a two-year countdown to March 29, 2019, began. According to legislation passed by the House and still on the books, Britain will automatically plunge out of the EU in 17 days even if there is no withdrawal agreement. >A large majority of MPs believe that would be extremely damaging to Britain as decades of trade deals, cross-border agreements, regulations and rights would disappear in a puff of smoke. It is therefore likely that the House of Commons will vote against no deal, but that is far from certain since the British government has not even said which way Conservative MPs will be told to vote 24 hours before one of the most important votes in a generation. >If Parliament does reject no-deal Brexit, another vote would be automatically triggered for Thursday. This time the question put to lawmakers will be: Should Britain request a delay to Brexit? >It is much harder to predict how that vote would play out as both of the main party leaders have effectively lost control of their MPs and would not be able to enforce the party whip. Substantial numbers of politicians on both sides believe delaying Brexit would be an insult to the electorate who voted to quite the EU in 2016; while similarly large numbers believe no deal must be avoided at all costs. There is also a smaller group of MPs who are plotting to hold a second referendum and would therefore vote for as long a delay to Brexit as possible. >Whatever Britain wants to do next, with 17 days to go until its membership of the European Union expires, it’s time to make a decision. http://archive.is/zHCLQ
>>210300 >trying to push for new elections This proposition is antithetical to democracy itself. You can't just make your populous vote again because they picked the "wrong" option. >>210306 Funny, "shitshow" was the first term that came to mind when I read about it the first time. What a fucking pathetic, incompetent government. >Threatens to Block Brexit Oh, they had better not fuck this up. If Brexit fails now, you can be sure that it'll never get another chance.
>>210375 It is hard to say what the EU will do. The plan from what I understand is that tomorrow there will be a vote that will reject a No-deal exit. And they will vote for extending the deadline for an exit. Theresa May must then ask the EU for an extension on Article-50. But to get en extension all EU member countries must agree. The thing I think will happen is that the EU knows the Labour party in Britain wants to remain in the EU, and that the Labour can and will block a leave. The EU will then play hardball and say "Tske the deal we offered, or you will have to leave without a deal." The question is will Britain accept the deal, or withdraw the "Leave notice" they gave the EU, and choose to remain in the EU instead. Or will Britain do the right thing and leave the EU free from all ties to it. https://youtu.be/4fVQwzv5Qfc
>>210508 >>210612 I haven't been following this too closely, and I'm not sure what all the yes to this no to that exactly means. Am I interpreting that May and co are trying to downplay and undermine the Brexit referrendum, and perhaps nullify it all together?
>>210615 By a few votes they made a non binding statement. In order for uk to stay in EU every member vassal has to agree to the extension with no veto. I have a feeling that's gonna fail and UK is crash out without deal despite their "resolve to shift blame"
>>210613 May wanted us to stay in the EU If we say yes to her Leave The EU Deal, we stay in the EU. We give up more rights. We're still EU property, and we lose our ability to vote in EU matters. It's surrender, total political and economic surrender to the globalists by the globalists.
>>210628 Making them is probably easier. 3D printers are probably restricted but it helps if you know someone. For the high-stress parts make them out of metal in a workshop. Just be careful you have connections you absolutely trust.
Also, it should go without saying but DO NOT download these files without a VPN or some way to securely change your IP address. I don't think Scotland Yard approves of horse pussy, if you get what I mean.
>>210630 Don't worry, one thing Nigel has proven is that he can get a new ID whenever he needs, no bully. >>210629 So the 'hard Brexit' that was just voted down, was that the deal? Or was the 'hard Brexit' not a legitimate 'hard Brexit'? There's so many names and implied outcomes that I don't know what is what, given that I'm not sure what sources are credible.
>>210613 Yes, that's how it's been since day one. The British people were supposed to roll over and become subservient vassals to the EU. None of the government officials wanted to leave, so instead of doing their jobs and serving the will of the people they've been attempting to undermine Brexit every way that they can.
>>210640 I'm still not understanding. The 'hard Brexit' that was just voted down was NOT a hard Brexit then? The name suggests that it would be a complete and decisive exit. Is that not the case? Was that just a game of words (not that it would surprise me)?
>>210643 May's "hard brexit" deal was shit. In short, her plan would have pretty much kept Britain bound by the EU's laws and regulations while forfeiting any privileges afforded to a member state. Essentially it would have removed Britain from the EU in name only.
In a few weeks we're approaching the deadline for a no-deal brexit. The entire purpose of the delay after invoking article 50 to leave the EU was so that former member states have time to arrange for an orderly exit and draw up trade agreements and such in advance. But with no agreements setup in advance, trade with the EU will cease until Britain get get some new trade agreements setup after the fact. It will be a big fucking disastrous shitshow since the EU wants to make an example of Britain to scare other member states away from fleeing their sinking ship.
However it seems now that they want to try and arrange for an extension of the no-deal deadline. Who knows what they plan to do from there. Probably twiddle their thumbs and keep extending the deadline ad-infinitum or keep trying to push though shit deals that place Britain in a weaker position than she was before she invoked article 50.
>EU's Tusk says Brexit extension possible if divorce deal passed >A short Brexit extension is "possible" but "conditional", EU Council President Donald Tusk said on Wednesday, in a short press conference in reaction to UK PM Theresa May's decision to ask Brussels for a Brexit extension until June 30. >The condition for an extension, he said, is for the British parliament to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement deal that British PM Theresa May struck with the EU. >"We have reacted with patience and goodwill to numerous turns of events", Tusk said, adding that the Brexit fatigue is "justified". >The EU27 leaders will meet to discuss Brexit at the European Council in Brussels on March 21. Tusk said he "did not foresee" the need for an additional extraordinary meeting to discuss Brexit after the summit. >In a letter to the EU sent on Wednesday, May requested an extension to Article 50, which she triggered on 29 March 2017 and gave the UK two years to negotiate its EU exit. >The planned Brexit date, on 29 March 2019, is just nine days away. http://archive.is/dmmj5
>>212813 >The condition for an extension, he said, is for the British parliament to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement deal that British PM Theresa May struck with the EU. That's bullshit. Hard BREXIT is the better option.
>>212816 Yep, if Britain gets out with no strings attached, Britain will have it so much better in the long run. Getting an extension to Brexit by agreeing to become a Vassal state is the worst possible outcome besides from becoming an Vassal state without delay.
>In a statement from Downing Street the prime minister directly blamed the House of Commons for the UK’s failure to leave the EU on 29 March, accusing it of doing “everything possible” to avoid a decision and saying it is now “time for MPs to decide”. >Her statement came hours after European Council President Donald Tusk said the EU would only accept a short extension of the Article 50 period if MPs back Ms May’s deal. >It means next week, possibly on Monday, she will for the third time attempt to put the agreement she struck with the EU to a vote in the House of Commons and if it passes the UK will leave sometime before 30 June when necessary legislation is locked in. >If it fails to pass there is a high chance Ms May could quit, after she told MPs earlier in the day she could not be the prime minister to impose a lengthy delay to Brexit. >She was on Wednesday also being pushed by Brexiteers to simply take the UK out of the EU without a deal next Friday, with all possibilities still on the table after two years of negotiations and just eight days before Britain is legally due to drop out of the bloc.
Theresa May is going to hold a press conference about the status of Brexit in about 20 minutes. https://youtu.be/7cDSfpHmQ9Y (only found upcoming stream from norwegain source, but should be raw stream)
MPs hold Indicative votes >MPS will tonight choose between eight different Brexit outcomes - from No Deal to staying in the EU for good. >In a chaotic string of votes, the Commons will decide whether or not to approve a string of potential scenarios for our EU exit.
>>214283 Not sure. Labor is pushing for a new referendum. There is perhaps going to be a new vote on Monday over the propositions that got most votes but lost to see if they don't get voted down again. But I am not completely sure about the further procedures. They are "discussing" it now in parliament.
They'll probably just reject everything again. They're so useless they couldn't achieve anything in 2 years what are they gonna do in 2 weeks. I hope we "crash out" of the EU and everyone has to eat grass seeds to survive.
>>215832 literally satan The voice of the people must be heard! Everyone, vote and make the majority opinion clear! *astonished pikachu face* Uh, umm, the Tyranny of the majority cannot stand! We will protect the minority! (((you placed the wrong vote I swear to G-d you filthy fucking goyim are going to be the death of me! go back and try again)))
>>215832 so if the UK can't get a deal (which is bureaucratically impossible for the EU) then no Brexit. >no Brexit
If any country in the EU can veto anything then any deal is unacceptable in the EU. The UK could surrender on every single point in negotiations and the EU may probably accept that. This fragile system of consensus only works in times of prosperity "who wants to be rich?" *everyone raises their hand*. But also makes the EU completely inflexible to any kind of change and hopelessly paralyzed in times of crisis.
In 2008 there was a financial crisis, What the US did is lock all the major bankers in a room and told them you can only leave after they made a plan to fix the economy, and after breaking dozens of laws and a lot of anger at the results, they made a plan in one afternoon. No crisis is fun but after the plan was implemented we returned to normal a few years later. In the EU, 11 years after the crisis they still don't have a plan and are still in economic crisis (zero to negative growth). There are too many countries with too disparate interests. There isn't a plan in the world that could satisfy all the interests of every country of the EU. Crisis is never fun, and if a fair agreement were made every member would feel betrayed.
Consensus in crisis is impossible, especially for Europe. >YFW a major reason you wanted to leave is also a major reason why you can't
>British Prime Minister Theresa May faces Brexit rebellion over new exit delay >She commands trust neither at home nor abroad. Her own cabinet is a breeding ground for rivals jousting to replace her. And in Brussels, diplomats discount her acumen and treat her as a problem to be solved, not a partner to work with. >And so it was that British Prime Minister Theresa May returned to London on Thursday, faced with a barrage of questions about her political future after another Brexit-infused humiliation. >She vowed that Britain would leave in an orderly Brexit on March 29. Then May 22. >“As prime minister, I am not prepared to delay any further than June 30,” May said last month. >Now it appears that date will be delayed to Halloween unless British lawmakers approve an exit deal in the meantime. On Thursday, she refused to rule out asking for even more time. >She previously promised Conservative lawmakers that Britain would not participate in European elections. Now it appears they will. >“Will she resign?” the Conservative pro-Brexit lawmaker Bill Cash asked in an angry interchange with May in Parliament. >“I think you know the answer to that,” May snapped back. (The answer was no.) >But some of May’s ex-backers appeared to have sharpened their knives while she was busy in Brussels. >“The pressure on her to go will increase dramatically, I suspect, now,” after the deal, May’s former Brexit secretary David Davis told the BBC. He said he didn’t think she could cling to power long past the May elections for the European Parliament, which he predicted would deliver an eruption of support for Euroskeptics. >Some Europeans fear that in offering Britain six months — shorter than many leaders wanted but longer than what French President Emmanuel Macron desired — they may have increased the chance of a no-deal exit: Now Parliament faces little immediate pressure to act, but Britain will not have enough time for a full rethink of its Brexit approach, including a second referendum or a general election. >As if to play to those worries, the immediate danger of mutiny against May appeared blunted by Parliament’s desire to speed off to vacation. >“Please do not waste this time,” European Council President Donald Tusk told British lawmakers early Thursday as he announced the reprieve. >Hours later, British lawmakers embarked on their break. Parliament will be back in business April 23 — to start several days of votes that, for now, do not include any Brexit-related issues. http://archive.is/VdOjQ
>>216434 He formed (with others) the Brexit Party because there are several centrists that will never vote for UKIP due to stigma. So the Brexit Party is for all that want to show they want to leave the EU and make Britain a free nation again. And I suspect if May manages to force through her "deal" with the EU, the Brexit Party will be the guarantees that Britain will exit that "deal" if they get enough votes. Firstly they want to win most of the votes in the EU Parliament election later this year. And it will be fun having Farage back in Brussels.
>Theresa May offers vote on second referendum if lawmakers back 'new deal' >UK Prime Minister Theresa May has announced yet another attempt to get her serially rejected Brexit plan through Parliament -- and this time she dangled the prospect of a second referendum to get the deal across the line. >In a speech in London, May offered what she claimed was a "new Brexit deal", which also contained pledges on workers' rights and environmental provisions, as well as a temporary customs relationship with the European Union. >Failure to agree the deal would lead to a "nightmare future of permanently polarized politics," she said. >May seemed to be losing support from her own side, too. Leading Brexiteers in May's Conservative Party, who were persuaded to vote for her deal last time, said they would revert to opposing it. "The Prime Minister's proposals are worse than before and would leave us bound deeply into the EU," said Jacob-Rees Mogg, a Conservative MP and leader of a pro-Brexit bloc in the Prime Minsiter's party. >In her speech, May urged lawmakers to consider the new package. "If MPs vote against.. this bill, they are voting to stop Brexit," May said.
>British PM May expected to announce on Friday that she will quit - The Times >British Prime Minister Theresa May is expected on Friday to announce her departure from office, The Times reported, without citing a source. >May will remain as prime minister while her successor is elected in a two-stage process under which two final candidates face a ballot of 125,000 Conservative Party members, the newspaper said. http://archive.is/33YBB
>Brussels fears no-deal Brexit could follow Theresa May’s departure >British Prime Minister Theresa May is once more fighting for her political survival, after the resignation of one of her most senior cabinet ministers in protest against her Brexit strategy. >The leader of the House of Commons Andrea Leadsom quit over May’s suggestion that MPs should have a vote on whether to hold a second Brexit referendum. >May made the referendum proposal to get parliament behind her deal on Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union. But now her chances of passing that deal look slimmer than ever before and many analysts believe she could be replaced as the leader of the Conservative Party by a more hardline Brexiteer. >“There’s a big worry here in Brussels that there will be perhaps a hardline Brexiteer, perhaps somebody like Boris Johnson, a notorious Eurosceptic, who’s not afraid of a hard Brexit, and so clearly this will harden positions on both sides and that will risk the UK crashing out of the EU which is an outcome that Brussels clearly doesn’t want,” http://archive.is/r3bRy
>uncker grudgingly admits Leave voters would WIN second referendum >JEAN-CLAUDE JUNKER has admitted the result of a second Brexit referendum is unlikely to reverse Britain’s decision to leave the European Union. >The European Commission president made the statement after Prime Minister Theresa May opened the doors on Tuesday to a second referendum if MPs vote on her controversial Brexit deal. Speaking to CNN, Mr Juncker said: “I would like to say yes to a second referendum, but the result might not be any different. I hope they will agree among themselves, and they will leave the EU by the end of October. I think it’s their patriotic duty to get an agreement.” >But he also claimed Brexit has created more europhiles across the continent, adding: "Since Brexit the number of those in favour of the European Union is increasing because people are watching what is happening and they are seeing that leaving the European Union is not as easy as they were told." http://archive.is/Gde9h
Amazing that Junker thinks this makes people more favorable towards the EU, might be the Stockholm Syndrome. >they are seeing that leaving the European Union is not as easy as they were told
>>223012 Peter Bone stood up in parliament and alledge it.
quote: Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con) I welcome the excellent acting Leader of the House to the Dispatch Box; his clarity on these occasions is up to the previous Leader’s clarity. Will he explain to us how the usual channels have anything to do with when a Government Bill is debated in the Chamber? I just do not follow that. However, my main question to the excellent acting Leader of the House is this: there is some speculation, however remote, that the Prime Minister might resign tomorrow. Could we have a statement on what mechanism there is to recall the House? Surely whether the House is recalled during the recess should be up to the House, and not up to the Government.
>>223108 It is truly a beautiful day. >"I will resign as leader of the Conservative and Unionist party on Friday, 7 June so that a successor can be chosen," May said outside 10 Downing Street. http://archive.is/Kka8W
>>223112 >party time! Not yet, not quite. Her purpose has been to delay and to get a more attractive deal for the (((banksters))). If she really leaves, it will be because a worthy puppet have been found. All this show is about how much $$$ which will paid by the Britons, and even the politicians pretending care for Britain are not representing people's interests but an oligarchs' faction. In other words, the struggle is about how hard a side will squeeze the other, and citizens (slaves) on this, have not a say.